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Nottingham Hen
Disqus is used most, its easy even, the backhand support with new themes is simply great. I would say Disqus is better than livefyre.
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
Nottingham Hen Well, probably it also goes down to personal appreciation, but if I'm right one difference is that Livefyre lets a copy of comments on you own blog so if you change your mind and go back to WordPress native comments system you lose nothing while with Disqus comments are stored only on their own servers and if you let the service you lose all comments. I might be wrong but that's what I've understood. That's why I choose Livefyre to get realtime comments and also for its Seo benefits. But again it also goes down to personal tastes. Thanks for your kind comment Nottingham Hen, much appreciated.
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FreeBook
I've just know about lifefyre, and like it really, it's fast
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
FreeBook Yes FreeBook, not only fast but also reliable. Thanks for commenting.
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Andrea T. H. W. moderator
GreenLotus My pleasure GL, on Livefyre you can add two blogs to your profile as direct links but I guess you can add the others to your bio. If in doubt ask and they answer more or less immediately. :)
Have a great week!
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Andrea T. H. W. moderator
GreenLotus Well, getting comments is another matter. :) Well, at least now you have mine. You can ask for help at Livefyre support service as they usually answer in a snap. It might be a change of theme is needed or it can simply depend on the plugins you use. Or maybe if you really like Graphene, which is a pretty good theme, you might go for Growmap plugin and CommentLuv.
Oh, if I can give you an advice it might be better to change your website on the Livefyre profile to one of your own blogs, just an idea. :) Have you looked at any article on Growmap? Very interesting stuff right?
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Dhara Mistry moderator
hypnodudeGreenLotus Hey Hilary, I see what you're saying here with respect to Livefyre being off center on one of your site. Here, try adding #livefyre {padding-left: 52px !important;} to your style.css sheet and it should do the trick. Let me know how it goes.
Please don't hesitate to reach out to us if you've any other questions. We're happy to have you as a part of our community! :)
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
Dhara MistryGreenLotus That's what I mean when I say outstanding support fast as a lightning. And let's keep in mind Livefyre it's a free service. :)
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Andrea T. H. W. moderator
Dhara Mistry Dhara, I was wondering about one thing. If a website after having being approved by Impermium later on becomes either spammy or a bad neighbourhood one is it possible to block and delete old comments? Or being notified about it? Just to avoid being slapped. :)
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Dhara Mistry moderator
Andrea Hypno Hey Andrea, I am kinda confused by your question :) Mind explaining in a bit more detail? It'll be helpful to give you the best answer :)
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
Dhara Mistry I knew I would have received an answer fast, I could bet on Livefyre support service and win every time. :)
Sorry Dhara if I've been a bit confused, I'll try to express my question better. Let's say that today I approve a comment which has a link going out toward a site which is search engine friendly. Next month this website becomes a bad neighbour and a link pointing there could affect my rank. Does Impermium find this out and unapprove the relevant comment even if already published or not? Or does Impermium warn me about this link on my site having became dangerous? Not that it shuld but I'm just curious as it happens that a good link today next month becomes bad.
Sorry if I'm splitting hairs. :) Have a nice evening!
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Dhara Mistry moderator
Andrea Hypno Thanks for the detailed explanation :) At the moment, we do not have a way to find out and inform you once a link on your site goes bad after approving. The process of identifying spam is currently dynamic. But, you definitely bring up a solid point here and I am going to pass your thoughts over to our dev team. We have plans to send more intelligent data to Impermium in the future, that will help combat spam in a much more efficient way. Let me know if you need me again Andrea! You've a great evening too :)
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
Dhara Mistry Well I'm happy if I've said something useful even if Impermium already does a great job. If it won't cost too much count me in when I'll reach the views threshold to get the premium service. :)
Have a great week and thanks again for your help Dhara.
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Andrea T. H. W. moderator
GreenLotus It's such a pleasure to see you here, thank for the visit my friend. If you don't like Akismet there is a very good alternative which is GrowMap Anti Spambot plugin which you can find at growmap.com, it's free and it works very well. Commentluv is another great plugin which comes second after Livefyre. They are both good with some differences, e.g. with Commentluv imho there is a greater risk of being spammed or plastered with bad neighborhood links. But it's just a personal opinion and I might be wrong.
Have a great weekend!
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GrowMap
I urge you to reconsider using Livefyre because allowing any third party system to control your comments takes away YOUR control of them. Worse, they are easily censored. I have already run into occasions when the sharing function built into Livefyre refused to share a post because it was about the occupy movement which is controversial and the major media wishes to suppress awareness of it as much as possible.
Livefyre is discriminatory and coercive because they only give links to bloggers who switch to Livefyre. CommentLuv on the other hand fairly provides links to any blogger who chooses to register at no cost - not only those whose arms are twisted to change commenting systems.
Bloggers must be very wise when choosing a commenting system because what you use will determine who reads, comments and shares your content. In my experience, bloggers who only want to share if the other blogger has more influence than they do are attracted to nofollow and Livefyre while those who believe in creating a better world by creating communities where all are treated as equals use CommentLuv and are dofollow.
Decide well so that the community you join best fits your own belief system. If you have any questions about dofollow or CommentLuv or building communities feel free to come by my blog and ask. I can't tell if you will be able to know where I am from this comment. You can find me easiest on Twitter @GrowMap and find my blog from that.
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
GrowMapDhara Mistry Thanks for coming and for your comment GrowMap, it seems that you're registered with Livefyre so the link to your website appears correctly. Well, actually I'm already a reader of your blog as it's very interesting and contains a lot of useful stuff. I didn't think about Livefyre as you describe it. And you can be sure I'll give your advices the right importance. I guess someone from Livefyre will surely come and explain your points, or if they are going to make any change in the future. You've raised interesting issues though.
I know about CommentLuv and I find it very, very good. And useful. I just think Livefyre has different options which I find good. But again be sure that I'll check out what you said.
Thanks for the advices, and have a great day!
MaxZuckerman moderator
hypnodudeGrowMapDhara Mistry
One quick point: we do not own the content produced on your site and therefore do not censor or control them in any way. It's up to you and your community to decide what you feel is appropriate conversation.
Happy to answer questions you have via email: support@livefyre.com is your best bet for our cat-like quick response!
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
MaxZuckermanGrowMapDhara Mistry Hi Max, thanks for your kind answer, anyway the question posed by Growmap is a good question, what happens to comments if someone quits using Livefyre? And what are the automated behaviors of Livefyre? Like automatically approving certain comments and stopping others? :)
MaxZuckerman moderator
hypnodudeGrowMapDhara Mistry
Hey everyone!
Comments made on your site will remain even after a user decides to no longer use the Livefyre service... If you so choose, you can remove the comments in the site administration.
The only automated moderation that Livefyre performs is spam filtering that is powered by a "learning based" service that analyzes the kinds of comments on your site and tries to over time figure out what is spam and what is not based on user behavior. Any filtered comment will be flagged for you in the administration panel and you can filter to just deleted comments if you like and perform any manual moderation you'd like.
So to summarize, a clever-robot is trying to filter spam... People at Livefyre will NEVER censor or moderate your content on your site. If something is automatically filtered incorrectly, you can re-approve it in the admin section. You can even "white-list" users that will never be marked as spam.
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
MaxZuckermanGrowMapDhara Mistry So, if I have understood it right, comments remain always on the website even if someone quits using Livefyre, nothing is lost; and Livefyre doesn't automatically delete comments but just send them to the spam folder where they can be manually approved. Also it automatically approves comments if they come from reliable persons, like you Max. II guess the question is answered, right? :)
GrowMap
MaxZuckermanhypnodudeDhara Mistry Akismet tries to do the same filtering and fails miserably, letting a flood of spambot comments with objectionable wording through and regularly putting the most intelligent comments into the spam folder where they are easily obscured by the spam let through - or, depending on how Akismet is configured simply deleting comments by people who have been flagged incorrectly outright if the post is more than 30 days old.
Perhaps Livefyre will manage to do a better job of that.
That your system refused to share content related to the occupy movement is of even greater concern to me. Both that and blocking valid comments are censorship and few will notice other than the rare person like me. I rarely comment in Livefyre using blogs; however, when the issues are important enough I will - and on those important issues I will not be the only one watching who will raise the alarm should censorship become apparent.
FYI: I was not talking about the link to my name not working because I don't use Livefyre. I meant that the feature that Livefyre copied from CommentLuv of sharing a recent post only does so for Livefyre enabled blogs - so they are favored over blogs that choose to use CommentLuv where CommentLuv enabled blogs do not discriminate against Livefyre using bloggers by refusing them a link. What this means is that Livefyre blogs are taking more than they are giving while CommentLuv blogs give more than they take. As I mentioned before, each fits a different kind of character and it is up to each person to decide what kind of perseon they want to be.
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
GrowMapMaxZuckermanDhara Mistry Well Gail, I see your point. As regards Akismet I regularly check the spam section but up to now it has worked well, all those comments were really to be thrown in the bin; nevertheless I'll go on checking just to be sure it works as it should. The same I do with Livefyre though. Clearly I can still do it because the amount of traffic this blog receives allows it and I don't have to rely on automating it. Also I unchecked the Akismet option to delete comments older than 30 days for the same reason.
As for the Occupy movement I can't say anything because I just don't know and I haven't noticed it.
As for the last point I misunderstood what you were saying but now it's pretty clear. I like too CommentLuv and having the possibility to freely choose which post to link to is surely an advantage over Livefyre. While I think that having a link on a comment is surely a good thing on the other side it opens the door to bad neighbours links unless someone manually checks them all before approving comments so having a profile on Livefyre before allowing links is not such a bad thing, imho. :)
Thanks for your comment Gail, as usual very interesting and useful.
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Dhara Mistry moderator
Hey there, thanks for choosing Livefyre and for this article! We're thrilled to have you on Livefyre! Please don't hesitate to reach out to us if you need anything. We'll be happy to help!
Andrea T. H. W. moderator
Dhara Mistry Thank you very much, I know you're happy to help, your customer service is first class. Glad also you liked the article. :)
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Livefyre Realtime Comments at The Hypnotism Weekly
I’ve decided to begin using Livefyre to deal with comments on The Hypnotism Weekly. If you don’t know what Livefyre is it’s a great platform to interact all over the web, or at least on those websites which use it. It’s free to join and it has some very interesting features which I’m going to describe briefly. In a couple of words Livefyre rocks!
The reasons why I’ve chosen it instead of the WordPress Comment system is first that Livefyre improves conversations and rewards commenters who have an account with it with a link back to their last post on their own website. That is if you leave a comment here, and have a Livefyre account, you get a link to your content, a pretty good way to spread the word on what you write while at the same time rewarding the blog you’re reading with a comment. Two doves with a stone, so to speak.
Second Livefyre lets you like and rate other people comments and share them, if you like, on Twitter and Facebook plus lets you follow automatically conversations so that you can know of any update and keep in touch, know new people and find interesting stuff on the net. Just by reading comments and interacting with others. Obviously this also means that if you make a sound, interesting comment it can be liked and shared too so increasing the chance that your own website gets visited. Can you see how useful Livefyre can be?
I especially like the feature of tweeting your comment as it allows to automatically share with your followers on Twitter what you’re reading and tweets about the post. Another two doves with a stone feature.
Third you can write a comment on a website using Livefyre without logging in or having an account but as a guest, or you can use social networks to sign in. Comments and answers are in real time and at any given moment you can know how many people are on a particular page. This is a kind of real time chat feature and you can read a good explanation of it at Danny Brown’s blog. Really, it has so many features that seems incredible.
Last, Livefyre is free to use. Well there is a pro Livefyre plan with enhanced features but given that with the free plan you can get up to 2 millions monthly views unless you are a really big player the free plan is more than enough. Also, even if it’s a free service the support is first class, I’ve asked a question and received an answer in less than a day, usually hours. Not so common on free services right? And the link back is surely a good reason to open a free account at Livefyre.
This is why I’ve decided to use Livefyre at The Hypnotism Weekly, it makes it easier for you to write a comment and the link back to your own content is a way to say “thank you”, plus it makes it easier for me to keep in touch with commenters and discover interesting stuff to read on the net. A real win – win situation. Also, it has already helped me to make new friends.
Now, I’d like to know your opinion on Livefyre: is it easy to use or did you prefer the old WordPress comment system? What are your thoughts? Do you like it or not?